Thu 5 Apr 2007
*beep* “Hi, guys. This is [Mr. W]. Lily called Cindy and said that our passports and visas are ready to be picked up, and she wants to know if you want her to pick up your passports and as well.”
In the above sentence, who does “she” refer to? Grammatically, the pronoun (“she”) would refer back to the subject (Lily), so doesn’t it sound like Lily called me to tell me that our passports/visas are ready to be picked up and Lily asked if I wanted to pick up passports/visas for Mr. W’s friends, as well? When I heard Mr. W leave this message on his friends’ answering machine, I told him that it sounded convoluted as to who was asking whom to pick up the passports because all he said was “she.” The remainder of the message, he told them to call him back and let him know so he could tell “her” (meaning me). This led to a dispute because Mr. W insisted that he’d made a point to say my name so that they would know that it was me who was offering, not that our travel agent, Lily, was forcing me to take other people’s personal documents into my own hands. I told him that he’d only said “she” and he said that because he’d said my name, then the “she” obviously meant me. I said it did not, and then he claimed that the message he left was “Lily called us and said our passports and visas are ready to be picked up. And Cindy called, and asked me to call you guys to see if you want Cindy to pick up your passports as well.” I KNOW he didn’t say THAT. Cuz as soon as he said “she” in the first version I had typed up there, I winced. It’s the editor and writer (and copywriter) in me.
And then Mr. W characterized this dispute as a “fight”, and complained that we “fight every day” about stuff like this. I asked for other examples. He brought up the day before while we were having dinner with Vanessa, and the day before that when he and I were watching Ally McBeal.
The dinner dispute was when Vanessa and I were talking about weight loss and dieting, and Mr. W interjected, “I’m coming back at like 210, 215 now.” Both she and I thought he was saying he’d gained 20, 25 lbs recently, and then I realized that he meant he’s coming back from the GYM at his lunchtime workouts at 2:10p, 2:15p now instead of the regular time when lunch is over. So I explained that to her and he was lost and I told him that Vanessa and I were on the same page, confirmed that with Vanessa, and that was the end of that. He called that a “fight”? The Ally McBeal thing was because we thought we may have been viewing the 4 episodes in the wrong order on the DVD, since the episode names weren’t displayed in a list, they were displayed in a block of 4, so we didn’t know whether we were supposed to go from the left top episode to the right, or straight down. We picked one, and there was a scene where Ally was making reference to all the strange guys who’d asked her out that week and she talked about some fat guy or strange event that we hadn’t seen in a prior episode, so Mr. W said something to the effect of, “See? We did skip something cuz we never saw that happen.” There was another place where he made a similar comment. But later, he denied ever even thinking that we may have viewed the episodes in the wrong order or that we may have skipped an episode, which is still confusing to me, but we went back and forth with me saying, “But you mentioned it TWICE!”. But anyway, his dramatic overcharacterization of those 2 disputes as “daily fighting” offended me yesterday evening and I’ve been irritated ever since.
I know fights, I’ve been in fights. I’ve fought when some sleezeball treated me like crap and told me it was my problem if I didn’t like it. I’ve fought when I was cheated on and lied to. I’ve fought when someone twisted something my mother said and published it to brag to his deluded friends. But I’d never fought physically or thrown things. And I know of Mr. W’s past fights with women he said had “volatile tempers”, who cheated on him, who screwed him over, who had psycho fits over stupid things like going thru his personal stuff and finding something he owned that they didn’t like. Women who had neighbors call the police on them for screaming and cussing and physically fighting with their men on the streets outside their homes. And he wants to lump ME into dramatics like that?! You’d think he’d know the difference.
I’m actually dizzy and lightheaded right now, and I’m not sure if it’s because I’m so irritated about all this, or because I couldn’t sleep all night from being bothered by this. Maybe I’m overindulging in his fatalistic, dramatic outlooks, and maybe it’s cuz I’m PMSing. But I hate, hate being wronged and I feel wronged often in this relationship. Who cares if his friends misunderstood his message? They could probably pick up the meaning through context if they had half a brain cell. I was just pointing out that it sounded convoluted, it’s not a stupid fight. (When I went to pick up the passports, by the way, travel agent Lily mentioned that the “friends” had picked up their passports that morning already, so now the friends can feel bad when they hear the message that we offered and they didn’t.)
There are no comments. Is everyone scared to say something? It was posted at 10:40 am. OK So…here I go.
BAT & MR.W ARE TWINS separated by dirt called American soil.
I TOTALLY FEEL YOU!!!!! Those are not fights, they are discussions. There is a BIG difference. BIG!
Hope you are feeling better. I get dizzy & light headed when Bat makes me mad.
Man, I think people ARE too chicken to comment on this. When they want my take on their issues, I’m there. When I’M venting, it’s just me and Flat Coke, man. *sniff*
Thanks for your sympathy, Flat Coke. It’s nice that someone feels me. And I am feeling better. I do always have a finger on the pulse that these are pittily little nothings for problems, which is a good thing. But it’s also because of that, that I’m irritated that this pittily little non-problems are perceived as such huge deals.
That is a potential can of worms, but I’ll go ahead and open it. Disagreements, which is what this is on the surface can become fights when at least one person gets emotional over it. I’ve had disagreements like this with my ex-gf which suddenly turned into a big honking fight and sent her off crying. When all it was was a disagreement over whether or not aluminum is magnetic (which it isn’t).
But there was no crying, no name-calling, no low-blows. This was purely stupid and impersonal.
About your aluminum fight, why didn’t someone just go stick a refrigerator magnet on a can of soda and watch it fall off? Or try to stick the can on the refrigerator?
Cuz when you’re in thailand sitting at a nice restaraunt inside your hotel, you don’t exactly have a magnet right in front of you. I think it would have made things worse if I did.
But seriously, I was working on tallying up my ex’s debit yesterday, so didn’t see this until the end of day and ended up chatting with you.
And another thing for the record – I didn’t think you two were having a fight at the dinner the other night.
Seems like Mr. W miscategorizes or uses the wrong word to describe things certain events, things, etc. And looks like when you point it out to him it might bring up feeling like anger, embarrassment, etc which are feeling he feels in a fight and then he calls it one. Just know that when he uses that word that he actually means something else and then let it roll off your shoulder.
Ok… the first line that disappear, so read this first and then read the top comment
“Just for the record I am not a chicken! As a feline I eat them…I am so not one.”
TurboTiger – As soon as I saw “Thailand” on your comment, I immediately presumed that this has something to do with prostitutes. I will forever associate Thailand with prostitutes at bars and massage parlors and on the streets. *vomit*
But a part of me wishes I had been in Thailand to have overheard your fight. I would’ve done anything to obtain a magnet and a soda can for you guys.
Vanessa – You think that’s it, just a misuse of terms? That seems too simplistic, though. It’s like filling out an answer on a quiz with “dog,” and then finding out the answer is instead “cat,” and then just claiming that I MEANT “cat” except I misspelled it.
Coming from someone who does do that sometimes and has to be corrected, it could be that he misused the term or it just that’s the label he gave that situation.
When that happens to me I sometime get embarrassed about it, and sometime that causes me to get angry and irritated. And if I am having on of those days where my ego won’t let me accept that I may have made a mistake, I will argue a wrong point just because I don’t want to say I goofed. Normally that happens when I am PMSing, haven’t eaten and am poo’d. Warning: Don’t hang out with me when I am all three…not pretty.
Plus, you are an English major, so it is in your nature to make sure your point gets across correctly as if you were writing a paper, where he is probably is associating the emotions with the word,. Make sense? Hope so.
Sensei T tells me during these times “Would you rather be right, or would you rather be happy?” Food for thought.
I’d rather be right, but only if I AM right. There are some right/wrong issues that are black and white, either I’m right or wrong. If I’m wrong, I’m okay being wrong as long as I can see and understand WHY I’m wrong (in other words, I’m proven wrong). If I’m wrong I don’t want someone to “give it to me” on pity or whatever despite that someone KNOWING I’m wrong. That’s condescending to me to be patronized and it pisses me off.
But most things aren’t black and white, right or wrong. Most things are preferential. “I feel this way. He feels that way. We both feel strongly.” On those, I’m willing to give on the happiness in order to either compromise, or give in knowing that giving in would lead to future happier times.